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<blockquote data-quote="akheathen" data-source="post: 8820294" data-attributes="member: 629234"><p>1300..... or someone else.... if they think they are going to improve the sound with anything pioneer thats not premier, then they aren't sure what good, nor efficient sounds like... and at that price point, its the garbage pioneer. you CAN actually get pretty far on factory mids and highs most of the time that you are dealing with stock that sounds like garbage. this is because about 80-85% of what you are hearing is mids trying to play frequencies that they just absolutely cannot play at high volume, being powered by something that simply cannot power what is needed. make the setup stop playing what it cannot play, and it will clean up 10-fold. easiest, quickest, and most reasonable way to do that is to add a sub stage to take the big power load off the mids, then find out what they actually sound like and go from there. back in the 90s, i used to power the highs off the head unit or tiny amp, then power the mids separately, and finally put the beans to the subs, and every stage would get clean, loud enough to independently cause hearing damage...... not to say it all sounded amazing and wasnt lacking, but it usually got by enough to hear the parts of the music good enough, without a bunch of distortion..... </p><p>either way, dont trade efficient speakers for speakers that are just as bad or worse, but require more power like entry level/not top level pioneers will do.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="akheathen, post: 8820294, member: 629234"] 1300..... or someone else.... if they think they are going to improve the sound with anything pioneer thats not premier, then they aren't sure what good, nor efficient sounds like... and at that price point, its the garbage pioneer. you CAN actually get pretty far on factory mids and highs most of the time that you are dealing with stock that sounds like garbage. this is because about 80-85% of what you are hearing is mids trying to play frequencies that they just absolutely cannot play at high volume, being powered by something that simply cannot power what is needed. make the setup stop playing what it cannot play, and it will clean up 10-fold. easiest, quickest, and most reasonable way to do that is to add a sub stage to take the big power load off the mids, then find out what they actually sound like and go from there. back in the 90s, i used to power the highs off the head unit or tiny amp, then power the mids separately, and finally put the beans to the subs, and every stage would get clean, loud enough to independently cause hearing damage...... not to say it all sounded amazing and wasnt lacking, but it usually got by enough to hear the parts of the music good enough, without a bunch of distortion..... either way, dont trade efficient speakers for speakers that are just as bad or worse, but require more power like entry level/not top level pioneers will do. [/QUOTE]
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