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<blockquote data-quote="way2sl0" data-source="post: 6843837" data-attributes="member: 610485"><p>Obviously this was a budget install, but it worked. Problem is, most know a stock car has decent midbass, with no highs or lows pretty much. Well I got crystal clear highs now, plenty of lows with the RE (which is kind of sloppy to be honest, but loud) good midrange, but no midbass. There is also some seperation but that is to be expected running tweets in the pillars vs. combined with the midrange.</p><p></p><p>So the components are Energy 6.5's (Klipsch) and they are clear. I never got frequency response curves for them which ***** or else I could start by EQ'ing there.</p><p></p><p>The car has Dynamat extreme, about 50 sq ft. The doors are about 10, trunk 20, roof and panels the last 20.</p><p></p><p>Amp running the fronts is a Dual XPA4100 - I got it on ebay used for $30, and I figured 150w rms per side would give me some headroom for my front stage - well it didnt. I either expect too much in terms of volume, or have set something up wrong because it doesnt sound that good when turned up, not to mention the Signal to Noise is absolute **** with hissing and other garbage (my other amp didnt do it, the grounds are fine and all the wires run opposite sides of the car).</p><p></p><p>Either way the midbass just isn't there. Ive tried EQ'ing and adding, but it isnt helping. Im running the fronts crossed at between 70-80hz, and the sub at 80. I have also DTA'd the front stage (which did help) with the sub stage to help blend the bass a little more but yeah it is still not as good sounding as I would have liked it to be.</p><p></p><p>Pic 1 is my front door, with the tweets and mid's highlighted ( I installed tweets off-axis which I am kind of regretting at this point, I may switch them ).</p><p></p><p><img src="http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/9200/car1u.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Second pic here is of the drivers side. A little problem I also have is in green. The dome for the speedo/tach etc creates a big bulge which the tweets on the driver side echo right off of, and **** the imaging up even more, creating a problem.</p><p></p><p><img src="http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5255/car2kc.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Third pic is my rear deck setup. I took out my 6.5's in the rear and just left the holes and grilles in place to allow sub to pass through.</p><p></p><p><img src="http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1017/car3a.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Finally the sub in the trunk. Looks ghetto, don't care since it functions fine. Should have probably gone with a larger port since this one makes some noise. It was my first box built alone anyways, and its 3.65cu ft @ 32 hz. (15 RE SRx)</p><p></p><p><img src="http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/3742/car4i.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Any advice or critique would be helpful, thanks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="way2sl0, post: 6843837, member: 610485"] Obviously this was a budget install, but it worked. Problem is, most know a stock car has decent midbass, with no highs or lows pretty much. Well I got crystal clear highs now, plenty of lows with the RE (which is kind of sloppy to be honest, but loud) good midrange, but no midbass. There is also some seperation but that is to be expected running tweets in the pillars vs. combined with the midrange. So the components are Energy 6.5's (Klipsch) and they are clear. I never got frequency response curves for them which ***** or else I could start by EQ'ing there. The car has Dynamat extreme, about 50 sq ft. The doors are about 10, trunk 20, roof and panels the last 20. Amp running the fronts is a Dual XPA4100 - I got it on ebay used for $30, and I figured 150w rms per side would give me some headroom for my front stage - well it didnt. I either expect too much in terms of volume, or have set something up wrong because it doesnt sound that good when turned up, not to mention the Signal to Noise is absolute **** with hissing and other garbage (my other amp didnt do it, the grounds are fine and all the wires run opposite sides of the car). Either way the midbass just isn't there. Ive tried EQ'ing and adding, but it isnt helping. Im running the fronts crossed at between 70-80hz, and the sub at 80. I have also DTA'd the front stage (which did help) with the sub stage to help blend the bass a little more but yeah it is still not as good sounding as I would have liked it to be. Pic 1 is my front door, with the tweets and mid's highlighted ( I installed tweets off-axis which I am kind of regretting at this point, I may switch them ). [IMG]http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/9200/car1u.jpg[/IMG] Second pic here is of the drivers side. A little problem I also have is in green. The dome for the speedo/tach etc creates a big bulge which the tweets on the driver side echo right off of, and **** the imaging up even more, creating a problem. [IMG]http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5255/car2kc.jpg[/IMG] Third pic is my rear deck setup. I took out my 6.5's in the rear and just left the holes and grilles in place to allow sub to pass through. [IMG]http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1017/car3a.jpg[/IMG] Finally the sub in the trunk. Looks ghetto, don't care since it functions fine. Should have probably gone with a larger port since this one makes some noise. It was my first box built alone anyways, and its 3.65cu ft @ 32 hz. (15 RE SRx) [IMG]http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/3742/car4i.jpg[/IMG] Any advice or critique would be helpful, thanks. [/QUOTE]
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