hummmm the most common problems i have seen in the first gen are the surround peeling off and voice coil burnt...... sheeeshhh i alwaz thought ppl wired it wrong or somthing... now tht i know its a common problem in the sub itsself...dont buy either better can be bought for the price //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif