Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts
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not nearly the same thing. 80 prs is the gold standard for anything audio related. Even out of the box music sounds better than any cheap head unit out there. If its too costly, look into buying used you can find them for 150 or so. That clarion crossover does not have adjustable slope, that EQ is junk compared to the 16 band EQ the 80 prs has. So no those components dont even offer anywhere close to HALF of the results you can get with the 80 prs. Basically complete waste of money By today's audio standards.Thanks for more good info //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
At this rate, we might just decipher the ultimate $500 build, a definitive example for other people... at least until technology progresses to a completely different realm of quality vs pricing.
This is good info, but remember this is a beginner build. If comparing it to something, it should be compared to factory systems or the people who go to Wal-Mart and buy a set of Sony Xplods and call it a day, not that professional builds shouldn't be examined and analyzed, which is what I was doing before checking in here. It seems this setup will be better than 99% of cars on the road no matter what. The "cheap" crossovers and equalizers seem to go far beyond what a factory system provides. If something 1/10 the cost provides 1/2 the quality, I call that a net bargain for such a build.
This isn't exclusively a SQ build either. The goal is a combination of powerful sound and quality. I think some major ground is being covered. If the HU you guys are talking about can do more than any combination of dedicated components can do for the same price, that seems the more reasonable option, but if other aspects can be improved by shifting money to the cheaper components that can do nearly the same thing, that's worth considering too. Exactly which features should I be searching for?
Looking at box designs online, the construction is absolutely simple to anyone with minimal skills and logic. The complexity appears to be in the math. If I have measurements, material, and tools, the construction is just a matter of effort and time. It is amazing what a little labor and time can do, literally saving me tens of thousands of dollars over the years by learning to do things myself and investing the time and effort to do it. Creativity also seems to be a valuable asset, finding ways to do things that others haven't.
If we have ruled out the second sub, and people elsewhere do tend to agree that the 12s in question blow lesser competition out of the water, especially with a good enclosure, then that opens some money to put into other areas and is one less line required. If we don't have to focus solely on SQ, does that change the options any?
Again Too many things in the signal line can absolutely hurt overall audio quality. Its best to have minimal processing in the signal line and have a strong original source signal.
Box building is not just math, you have to factor in the subwoofer's electromechanical parameters aka TS parameters. You also have to figure out your vehicle's cabin gain and acoustics. Its not as simple as just doing math. There's subwoofer modeling programs like WINISD which should get you started somewhere. Use torres box calculator for the math. Both are free software to download online.
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