JL overpriced

[vasilios 10+ year member]

id rather my product be made in china by someone who is thankful to have the job over some woman who hates her job and cant wait to get off work so she can get home.
id still rather buy something made in my Country

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[Ineed$ 10+ year member]

asians do take a lot of pride and loyalty in the company they work for

 

[lilmaniac2 5,000+ posts]

i don't mean to come off as a JL fanboy. but give me an example of an amp with ripp technology for the same price or less

Phoenix Gold, Rip Technology is just marketing bs.

 

[helotaxi 5,000+ posts]

If you measure performance only in terms of numbers on an SPL meter, then sure you can get much more for much less. If that is your measure of performance then you really aren't JL's target market anyway.

You can get a ton more power than McIntosh, Tru, Genesis, Sinfoni, Audison etc... for much less money but everyone who goes on and on about how JL is overpriced drools all over those brands which in reality are nothing all that special.

A lot of people don't like the sound of the W7, but a lot of people don't like the sound of the XBL^2 subs either. I've never heard a legitimate complaint about the quality of the output of any of the other JL subs only about the quantity. They do OK on output for an SQ oriented driver and for the person who wants to listen to music (not just rap) on a quality setup at sane levels, the JLs fill the bill very well.

You pay some for the name, but most of what you pay goes to the in house R&D that JL does. What has Kicker done in the way of innovation in the last 10 or so years? They change the look of their subs every year but that's it.

I've got a JL sub that is 16+ years old. I got it back when they were about as mainstream as Ascendant or Fi or Stereo Integrity are now (yes the people on here know those brands but ask some Joe off the street and chances are they've heard of Kicker, JL and maybe MTX but not AA, Fi or SI). JL earned their reputation as one of the best subs on the market and built their market share and name recognition through performance. They did it before there was an internet and they did it with minimal advertising. Look back 15 or so years at every head to head comparison of subs in the car audio mags and you will see that if there was a JL sub in the comparo, it won. It wasn't because they spent a lot of money advertising in that mag either, because, like I said, they hardly advertised at all. The best advertising for them was done at the IASCA world finals where they had several winning streaks that spanned years.

The real answer as to whether or not they are overpriced is sales figures. I don't think that they are having trouble moving product...

 

[helotaxi 5,000+ posts]

Phoenix Gold, Rip Technology is just marketing bs.

The XE load did the same basic thing but went about it in a totally different way.

 

[lilmaniac2 5,000+ posts]

The XE load did the same basic thing but went about it in a totally different way.

a regulated amp is a regulated amp in my eyes..

 

[1991Brougham 10+ year member]

If you measure performance only in terms of numbers on an SPL meter, then sure you can get much more for much less. If that is your measure of performance then you really aren't JL's target market anyway.
You can get a ton more power than McIntosh, Tru, Genesis, Sinfoni, Audison etc... for much less money but everyone who goes on and on about how JL is overpriced drools all over those brands which in reality are nothing all that special.

A lot of people don't like the sound of the W7, but a lot of people don't like the sound of the XBL^2 subs either. I've never heard a legitimate complaint about the quality of the output of any of the other JL subs only about the quantity. They do OK on output for an SQ oriented driver and for the person who wants to listen to music (not just rap) on a quality setup at sane levels, the JLs fill the bill very well.

You pay some for the name, but most of what you pay goes to the in house R&D that JL does. What has Kicker done in the way of innovation in the last 10 or so years? They change the look of their subs every year but that's it.

I've got a JL sub that is 16+ years old. I got it back when they were about as mainstream as Ascendant or Fi or Stereo Integrity are now (yes the people on here know those brands but ask some Joe off the street and chances are they've heard of Kicker, JL and maybe MTX but not AA, Fi or SI). JL earned their reputation as one of the best subs on the market and built their market share and name recognition through performance. They did it before there was an internet and they did it with minimal advertising. Look back 15 or so years at every head to head comparison of subs in the car audio mags and you will see that if there was a JL sub in the comparo, it won. It wasn't because they spent a lot of money advertising in that mag either, because, like I said, they hardly advertised at all. The best advertising for them was done at the IASCA world finals where they had several winning streaks that spanned years.

The real answer as to whether or not they are overpriced is sales figures. I don't think that they are having trouble moving product...

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I like your post! Thanks for explaining what JL is about.

Rick

 

[helotaxi 5,000+ posts]

a regulated amp is a regulated amp in my eyes..

XEload had nothing to do with regulation. It had to do with load management. The Xenons were not regulated amps that I know of. They used stepped rails to adjust the rail voltage for the load that they were wired to. They still varied output power with input voltage. The JL amps work in a totally different way and make the same power regardless of load or input voltage as long as both are within the operational range of the amp. There is not another amp that does both as far as I know. There are amps that do one or the other but not both.

 

[916Kev 10+ year member]

helotaxi, did you graduate from JL University?? Haha!

 

[spike_e 10+ year member]

i have a w6 and i had 3. i love the subs. and mine is forsale if an one wants it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

i also use a 450/4. very solid amp. aalso for sale

 

[Qbenjamin 10+ year member]

jl is worth the money and if you have the right buyers locally its not expensive i got my 3 13.5 w6v2 for 1000 even JL is not over priced and my **** will hit 153+db anyday

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JL is made in the Florida theres only one factory thats why no ones sells it but a few people becuase they dont mass product like kicker and have **** up products every 100 made they are made by hand..

Tru

 

[DDeitz 10+ year member]

i just dont like the jl fan boys //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

 

[Ignatowski 5,000+ posts]

nothing wrong with JL's products,it is good stuff but most people including myself

can locate something as good or better for half JL's price..

and JLs warrenty is really nothing short of a scam against DIYers

 

[pawn man 10+ year member]

jl makes a good product. not an exceptional product. they have done an exceptional job of promoting there product. you can get a better product for the same price.

 

[Redlineaudio 10+ year member]

this W1 was beat almost to death, but keeps on keeping on. Girl that had/has it is thrilled with what it does.