Nightshade v.2 Prototype Preview Picture

Same box as the v.1 -- direct drop-in !
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Can't wait till these actually come out //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 
Wish I was going to have them by then... it will be a bit after that.
I see power handling has been increased quite a bit over the v.1s, will my good ole' SAZ-3k still be a good match? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 
I'm just pleased as punch that you decided to go with a full compliment of shorting rings in these. Think you could set up a 15" with a nice single-spider soft suspension for a low Fs and large Vas? Cms of around 250 to 450 would be swiggety-sweet. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

I'm gonna be after a set of those aluminum spacers very soon also. Along with those baskets and cones I wanted forever ago. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 
I'm just pleased as punch that you decided to go with a full compliment of shorting rings in these. Think you could set up a 15" with a nice single-spider soft suspension for a low Fs and large Vas? Cms of around 250 to 450 would be swiggety-sweet. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
I'm gonna be after a set of those aluminum spacers very soon also. Along with those baskets and cones I wanted forever ago. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif
I haven't built a sub yet with just one of my spiders... but that might be close to your 250 goal. How low do you want the Fs to be ?

 
**** its all good i seem to be having problems getting subs lol lately
I'll have the Z v.2 out by then... but it won't handle what you are talking about //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 
I see power handling has been increased quite a bit over the v.1s, will my good ole' SAZ-3k still be a good match? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
Oh yah... power handling is up but power requirement is NOT.

 
Oh yah... power handling is up but power requirement is NOT.
Of course not //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif, just trying to see if it'd be worth upgrading amps, but most I'd upgrade to is probably 3.5k and since I no longer go for numbers, not worth the money to me //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif The V1 with 2H2S spiders can take the power great, though it heats up a bit so I'm hoping with the v.2 I can bang on it all day //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 
Of course not //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif, just trying to see if it'd be worth upgrading amps, but most I'd upgrade to is probably 3.5k and since I no longer go for numbers, not worth the money to me //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif The V1 with 2H2S spiders can take the power great, though it heats up a bit so I'm hoping with the v.2 I can bang on it all day //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
Coil cooling on the v.2 is MUCH better... and the coil is nearly 50% longer. So you will be good to go //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 
I haven't built a sub yet with just one of my spiders... but that might be close to your 250 goal. How low do you want the Fs to be ?
Anywhere below 25 or so would be nice.

Is the surround going to prevent that from happening or is it thin enough that it wouldn't be the main component of the compliance when using a soft spider? A nice soft rubber one would be nice but I know you usually don't have those when I ask. Obviously, I'm after a nice quiet stroke with a lower mechanical power handling than thermal, which you've probably already gathered.

 
Coil cooling on the v.2 is MUCH better... and the coil is nearly 50% longer. So you will be good to go //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
That's what I like to hear //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 
Anywhere below 25 or so would be nice.
Is the surround going to prevent that from happening or is it thin enough that it wouldn't be the main component of the compliance when using a soft spider? A nice soft rubber one would be nice but I know you usually don't have those when I ask. Obviously, I'm after a nice quiet stroke with a lower mechanical power handling than thermal, which you've probably already gathered.
I have a few cones with softer surrounds here I could use -- I can use the same cone as the Z15 v.1 woofer... it's Fs was 28 Hz with dual spiders (obviously softer than the Nightshade units).

I bet with that cone, one Nightshade spider, with the v.2 coil (fairly heavy by comparison) the Fs would be way down there.

 
such a big motor but you only want a single spider, i almost cried. it's a spl woofer ment for several thousand watts. build for a daily beating and you want to baby it? it's like buying a corvette and driving 55mph...

 
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