Well got them temporary installed in my sail panels and angled them slightly upward toward the rear view mirror and when I turned on my HU.....wow crisp and clean.....I like what a difference coming from the vifa xt silks,my ID oems mids really blends in nicely.worth every penny they are a large format tweeters so now I will need ti figure out how to fabricate some kind of pods that will look nice and not big and bulky,my car is a 2002 Chrysler 300M,if anyone have had some dealings with this type of car please let me know about making or fabricating pods for the sail panels.